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daisy bb gun vs airsoft

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daisy bb gun vs airsoft
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Dec 12, 2007 8:14 PM
by beetzme )
Here is one of the great american traditional bb rifles the "Daisy red ryder carbine" and it could not be sold on ebay. now compare it to the airsoft combat military aggressive hate kill guns. guns designed for mass killing under the guise of toys? You can sell all you got. But my attempt to sell a daisy vintage red ryder bb gun in it's original box, given to me by my Dad over 35 years ago for xmas is not allowed. what gives?
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Try putting up a safety notice that it is a bb gun and in no shape,way or form can it be manufactured to fire live amunition.That usualy does the trick.And airsoft is almost exactly the same as your bb guns,except they dont hurt as much.
by xxxwileycoyotexxx )
Dec 30, 2007 5:48 PM
If your Daisy is 35 years old, I am guessing you are around 43 to 48. Going back to when you were ten or so, cowboys were still cool. My Dad collected guns, (real ones), and when we went shooting at the range, he would wear his stainless steel .44 magnum on his hip like he was The Pale Rider himself. So it was a natural progression for me to want to want to be a cowboy. My Red Ryder was my pride and joy.

Now days ask a ten year old if he, (or she), wants to be a cowboy and they will laugh at you. Times have changed, and the SWAT team is way cooler than Cool Hand Luke.

As far as the guns you call “combat military aggressive hate kill guns” are concerned, think about this: Is the benign Red Ryder not modeled after the famous Winchester repeater? The same rifle that led Mrs. Winchester to believe her family was cursed by the spirits of all the people her husband’s guns had killed?
by frankieboy777 )
Feb 24, 2008 2:51 PM
Simply put, BB guns are prohibited on Ebay, per the "Prohibited Items" Section of the Terms of Service,

"BB guns, air guns, blank guns, black powder guns or muzzle-loader guns. Listings that use the term “BB gun” in the item title or description of any listing for an air soft or replica gun."

And since you've chosen to bash my sport of choice...maybe you can explain how a 6mm or 8mm plastic bb, coming from a replica specifically designed to impart less than 1 joule of energy to the target (which is not enough to break the skin), can be described as "designed for mass killing under the guise of toys?"

Having been involved in Airsoft for almost 10 years, I have yet to see anyone get killed on the field as a result from a strike from an Airsoft BB (There was on heart attack in Sweden during a game last year, but that is another story).

Although there have been a (thankfully) few cases of criminals being shot after brandishing (illegally) an airsoft replica (and make no mistake, someone who brandishes a replica at a police officer is committing a crime in any jurisdiction in the United States), there have been far more cases of people being injured by BB guns firing a metal projectile specifically designed to fire at high velocity, and which are specifically marketed as hunting weapons.
by karraway-half )
Feb 26, 2008 5:29 PM
long story short, BB guns kill people, Airsoft guns don't. So bb guns aren't allowed but airsoft guns are.
by jntdac )
Jul 19, 2008 3:57 PM
"The guise of killing people" ?

I'm not sure I understand. All kinds of popular sports are like that. Fencing, Kendo, Martial Arts, Paintball, Laser Tag, Nerf, Field Hockey, many of the traditional Celtic sports and so on.

BB guns are pretty cool. Technology these days gives us full auto bb guns, bb shotgun-style cannons and all kinds of stuff.
What worries me about 'em is that you have to dig out the metal bbs everytime you get shot, and you're a lot more likely to lose an eye, an ear, part of your nose, etc.

I've had some experience with airsoft guns, and to my surprise, it takes a lot of deliberate manipulation to make all but a couple of them just to get them equally as dangerous.

BB guns have their danger level from the get-go. It's like in Home Alone the movie; you can drop a full grown man with the right shot.

So I guess Ebay is freaked out by how easy it is for ANYONE to get something off Ebay.
I mean, there were those kids who got their rocks off by blowgun darting people in DC.

Airsoft is a pretty regulated sport; the news lately showed to sides to it: dumb kids and people having them off the field, and at big organized games.

It'd be like carrying a baseball bat or a fencing sword at a museum.

Everything has their own field to be on. If BB guns had their own major regulated sport, I"m pretty sure Ebay wouldn't mind it so much.
by othergear )
Aug 7, 2008 6:36 AM
I got shot inside the ear once... but we were playing a Omaha beach situation and i stuck my head out a lil too far to see what was going on...... (God i hade the suicide waves)(And i was wearing only safety glasses USE FULL FACE PROTECTION KIDS!) but no harm no fowl the most ive ever seen someone get injured was some dick spraying a full auto gas gun point blank at some gus face cuz he was pissed off but even that only leaves a few little spots of blood.

But overall the fact is that the surface area of the airsoft BB is greater making the Force distributed overall weaker compared to the massive force delivered in the tiny area of the BB gun. thats why airsoft BB's don't get stuck in you = )
by crocketman19901337 )
Aug 17, 2008 12:12 AM
It doesn't really have to do with surface area. It has a lot more to do with mass and velocity.

Here are some numbers to define what we're talking about.
Daisy BB = .177 caliber = 4.5 mm, typical weight can be .38 grams and up.
Airsoft BB = 6 mm = .236 caliber, typical weight is .20 or .25 grams.

A 6mm, .20 gram bb traveling at 400 feet per second imparts 1.49 joules of energy.

A 6mm, .25 gram bb traveling at 400 feet per second imparts 1.86 joules of energy.

A .177 caliber, .38 gram bb traveling at 400 feet per second imparts 2.83 joules of energy.

It has nothing at all to do with surface area. It has to do with mass x velocity. Metal BBs have more mass for the same size. At the same muzzle velocity, they're going to dump more energy into the target.
by karraway-half )
Aug 18, 2008 8:36 PM
but what about like say:
a .20G bb made of plastic vs
a .20g bb made of metal

wouldnt the metal do more damage due to the fact that:
A: the surface area thing since its smaller
B: It would travel faster because less wind resistance therefore hitting the person harder
???
by crocketman19901337 )
Aug 18, 2008 11:27 PM
i'm not going to go all technical here on ya ,but please don't put another mans game down because yours is not allowed,hey if you played airsoft you too might become one of us hate combat aggressive WaCkOs!!! bottom line...GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE,PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!!!!!
by kdawg3766 )
Jul 2, 2009 6:15 PM