How do YOU feel about the immunization/austism connection? Did the shots shut down your child? Do you feel that there is no connection? Do you feel that there is one massive cover up going on? What do you think?
I believe wholeheartedly that there is a link. My son had an awful reaction to his shots, severe fever, vomiting etc. He went from near pefect apgars to asd diagnois. Now, I can't prove it, but I will say this. It seems as though there is a coverup.Parents are told that these vaccines are safe, that its all hogwash linking, yet when there is a reaction instead of report them as they are required, most doctors do not. If there was nothing to hide, what would be the hold up in reporting?
I do NOT believe it is the Shots. There are children who had reactions to the shots and did not develope Autism. There are children who did not react to the shots who do have Autism. People get their shots from Public Health. And from Doctor's offices. Which are better?? who knows. If you think about it, when you were preginate you were told a lot of things were safe, over the counter drugs etc. When I had my first son he is 20 years old, I was given a list with what I could use. My 2nd son is 17 years old, I was given a shorter list. When my niece had her son, 5 years old, she had a very short list. In 15 years over half the over the counter drugs on my list were removed from her's. The thing is I never took anything! At 2 weeks pregnate I took 2 asprin with the oldest, found out I was pregnate and nothing else. With the 2nd we were trying so I was already not taking anything. But I have one with Asperger's, the younger. I truely believe mankind doesn't understand 1 percent of how the human body really works and interacts with itself and its inviroment. But, I can't see a coverup going on for 20 years of giving children bad injections knowingly. What would they have to gain. More children to have to support now and adults as they age? As far as reporting, do all doctors get a call from parents when their child spikes a fever (I am not saying your son wasn't severe) after getting shots? Most parents are told to expect it. I always had to give Benjamin Tynoal before his shots, he was going to have a fever and rash. He has a lot of skin rash alergies. I did not call the doctor, I expected it. I think there is more than one trigger to Autism, both gentic and enviormental. But, I don't know if we will find it anytime soon. There are too many varibules at this time.
I PERSONALLY THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONNECTION . WE ALL HAD OUR VACCINATIONS ON TIME MY OLDEST SISTER IS 36 AND SHE IS BRILLIANT . SHE IS IN WHO'S WHO AND SHE ALWAYS EXCELLED IN SCHOOL (AND SHE WAS ENROLLED A YEAR EARLY) SHE LIVES IN IRELAND AND GETTING HER 3RD DEGREE I BELIEVE .
BUT MY YOUNGEST SIS WHO IS 14 , WHEN SHE WAS A TODDLER MY PARENTS WANTED TO PUT HER IN A DAYCARE FOR SOCIALISATION REASONS AS WE WERE RURAL AND NO PLAY DATES OR SUCH .
INSTEAD OF GETTING HER MEDICAL RECORDS THAT THE DAYCARE REQUIRED IT WAS JUST EASIER FOR MY MOM TO GET HER AN EXTRA VACCCINATION REAL QUICK FOR THE DAYCARE .
THE NAME OF THE PRESERVATIVE IN THE VACCINES I THINK IS SOMETHING THERMERASOL OR SOMETHING , I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAD ANY PARTICULAR REACTIONS BUT I HAVE HEARD THE STORY AND WE USED TO WATCH IMUS IN THE MORNING GETTING READY FOR SCHOOL AND THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS .
I DON'T KNOW BUT I SUSPECT THERE MAY BE A LINK , IT'S SUCH A PUZZLE . THAT IS WHY I LIKE THE ICON 4 THIS GROUP . GETTING ALL THE PIECES AND THEN FIGURING OUT HOW 2 PUT THEM 2GETHER . SOMETIMES OUR HOUSE IS JUST UPSIDE DOWN . WE MOVED INTO OUR NEW BIGGER HOUSE MANY YEARS AGO BUT STILL IT SEEMS WE ALL WIND UP IN THE SAME ROOM A LOT THOUGH WE TRY TO VARY OUR SLEEP SCHEDULES AND SUCH . NO OFFENSE BUT SOMETIMES MY SISTER GIVES ME A HEADACHE . SHE SEEMS TO BE LASY BUT SHE PROBLY ISN'T I JUST KNOW SHE DOESN'T DO MUCH HOUSEWORK OR COOKING OR SUCH . RIGHT NOW WE R GROWING FROGS FROM TADPOLES . SHE HAS ALL OUR OLD OMPUTERS IN HER ROOM , SHE LIKES 2 TAKE THINGS APART . I'M AFRAID SHE WILL GET SOME KIND OF RADIATION FROM THE OLD COMPUTERS . SHE HAS A HORRIBLE DIET AND IS JUST LUCKY TO BE BLESSED WITH gr8 SKIN + SUCH . WE ALWAYS TELL HER 2 AVOID THE SUGAR AS BOTH PARENTS R NOW DIABETIC MY DAD JUST HAD 2 GO ONTO THE INSULIN INJECTIONS , MY MOM IS TYPE 2 , UNTREATED .
OF COURSE I FEEL THERE COULD BE A COVER UP BUT THEY MIGHT SAY BETTER TO PROTECT THE ENTIRE POPULATION EVEN IF SOME ARE DEVASTATED .
I do not believe immunizations are a precursor to autism. I believe that it is a biological, mostly inherited neurological disease. It is seen in families, especially looking back at those family members deemed "odd"...who show signs of the spectrum... Also, trauma in the womb and at birth or immediately after can affect the brain and cause it...lack of oxygen is a huge one.
I believe this based on what I see in our family. I have Aspergers...my father had every sign of it but in his day it was not mentioned (had he lived, he'd be nearly 90). My son is autistic. My half- sister from my mom's side (first marriage) is Aspie, her children are on the spectrum. My son is Aspie and MR, due to both genetics and significant lack of oxygen in utero, at birth (3 mos preemie and on the vent for most of his NICU time), etc. My step children are both on the spectrum....one is Aspie and one is PDD-NOS.
While folks don't recognize the symptoms til after the vaccines that come in mulitiples...if you look back, you can usually see things that just don't look right...like baby was rigid or very limp, hated touch, seldom cried, you name it... An autistic child shows signs from birth...if only the parents will look and see rather than ignore it...especially if they have it running in the family.
I do believe immunizations are trigers. ASD does not run in my family. They have done the genetic testing and there is no fragile x. My son was doing everything he should have been, EATING, TALKING, etc... However between the ages of 12 months and 24 months he had ongoing ear infections that never seem to go away. Always on antibotics and persciptions. Was behind on his shots due to always having fevers from the ear infections. He received his "catch up" shots and within 30 days regressed. I am not saying immunizations cause autism but I believe (and so does my family and friends) it triggered it. I agree that a safer schedule should be put in place. With the safer schedule they start at 2 years old instead of birth and still receive all of the required shots in time for kindergarden. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and this is mine. I do not expect everyone to agree with me.
I have a son with autism and I also teach students with autism. I personally believe that there is a combination of factors. First, I think there is a genetic link. There are several families in my county where the children are all on the autism spectrum. My son is an only child and my husband was adopted, so, even though there is no history of autism in my family, there could be some in my husband's.
Having said that, I truly believe that there is some kind of environmental trigger. My son played, smiled, laughed, cried, interacted, ate anything and everything, and was very affectionate until he received his one-year shots. It all stopped after a HUGE reaction - high fever, vomiting, muscle pain. He stopped smiling, laughing, interacting. He stopped eating all but five things - bread, chicken, bananas, pasta, and pizza. After he was diagnosed at 3, he received 6 years of intense speech, occupational, and ABA therapy and he is able to do much more now. BUT, I have pictures from before and after the shots and you can see a complete change in his expression, his posture, his eyes, everything. I have video of him as a baby and then after his shots. It's almost like watching two different kids. Because of this, I am a firm believer that the shots were the trigger.
However, I also know of families who had children with autism who had the shots, then had children with autism who did not have the shots. The children who have autism with the shots are more severe, but the autism is there none the less. I think there may have been another environmental trigger, maybe from birth. There are so many poisons out there - in our water, in our soil, in our homes, in our food.
I do believe, as well, that there are many more cases now than ever. It's not just more knowledge and better diagnoses. I come from a family of teachers, both general education and special education, and they tell me that they have never seen the number of students with autism in their lifetimes as they do now. There were a few 'odd' students now and then who may now be labeled Asperger's, but not nearly the numbers we see now. And if you think about it, we use a lot more preservatives, chemicals, and additives now than ever before.
Yes there has to be some connection to the shots and Autism, because to many individual families are going through and their children are shutting down as after being given shots. However i also believe it's more than just shots, i think we are looking at many different factoring things now. I don't feel the shots were linked to any of my children having Autism. Or it very well be i was so young when my children where dx and also not much was known about it back then, that no one paid attention, because i certainly didn't know to look for it. My son, displayed signs of Autism, when he was only months, so i'm just not sure about the shots for us.It runs so deep in our family, that for us it's more genetic than anything.
I going to take a netural position of yes or no cause on vaccines. I have autism and I was required to take shots for school. I was worried about it but it had to be done. I got them and I never had a reaction to them. Some people might get it due to their DNA. Their DNA may have something that caused a trigger and poof---it happend.
From what I know of my childhood and my family, I was born with it. I still remember standing in my crib and drinking a bottle. That insane for most people. How I personally believe I got it: parents were 40, mother was a smoker (great DNA messer) and genetics.
Scientists argue all the time, like us, what causes the condition. Even some people in the CDC don't agree vaccines are not the cause. But most of the university research, valid, tested, and peer-review studies show that there are no link in the two. But till more research shows a connection with vaccines and is verified by others, there is the only multi-factor cause of the disorder that most health officials and doctors will accept.
I believe my child was born with Autism. His 'signs' were there the day we brought him home. However, I had another child that I have not immunized at all out of concern. (2 older children that are fully immunized, but not autistic)
I believe there is something in their little bodies from birth, and that in SOME babies the shots bring out/set off the Autism. Other babies either don't have whatever it is, so the shots don't harm them.
What do you say to the Moms whose babies are perfectly typical (normal) until the MMR, then all of a sudden they stop talking, loose eye contact, etc. I can't in good conscience say that there's no connection.
I have been reading on the GAPS diet (gapsdiet.com). Their theory is that immunizations are for healthy children and, because of our eating and health habits, we are a society of sick people. This "lack of wellness" makes our children suceptiable to being injured by these vaccinations and so an increase in disorders like Autism, ADHD, dyslexia, asthma and more! So, like getting a paper cut on your finger dosen't mean you WILL develop and infection but there is a possibility you could. A child with a weakened immune system who gets a vaccination may or may not develop autism or another disorder.
I like what vitalkids2008 typed. The immunizations may be fine for healhty kids, but so many autistic kids are born pre-term. That may be why the immunizations cause the disconnects -or prevent connections.
The day my Daughter got her MMR vaccination she went into seizer and the little 1 year old child i knew disapeared. It wasn't until 3 years ago I learned about detoxing her from the heavy metals She was completely non verbal until a month after we start the detox. At five years old she finally started making eye contact. That christmas heard her say I love you to me for the first time. This year she SANG happy birthday to me. She will be 8 in March. I invite every one to my myspace profile. I post any and all useful information I have there to help others families..I ALSO HAVE VIDEOS OF HER SINGING, AND READING BOOKS TO ME!!. We will be working with her for a long time to come, but the progress is amazing. She was finally potty trained at 6, and now also speaks over 14,000 words..
Hello Did not know there was an Autism network here. MY son Kevin is 22 and autistic. I think there is a connection but not sure what ? If there is an elepelsie connection to Autism IE Autism being some form of it, I think there is a connection. What i mean is if there is a disposition then maybe the shot can make the issue worse. But from what I understand shots do not cause Autism ? I only wish we knew more. Kevin does not speak and has the very worst of the behaviors. Not much sign unless he is hungry. As for pets he does not like the dog or cat much but they do like him. The cat will sit on the side of the tub when he is in the bath. The dog loves him because he will drop food from time to time. Autistic children god bless you. You have your hands full. Hopefully the cat has a thick coat ! lol
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