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need help with tennesse walker
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May 14, 2009 2:06 PM
by tiiggeerr007 )
i am new to the horse world, i bought a 4 and a half year old walker. He is a little head strong , an i am not an experianced rider. I am having a problem with him trying to run away with me on his back. Any advise??????
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hello, tiiggeerr007, yes , I have some advice...please take care of your self and your horse. This could be a very dangerous situation! There are so many possibilities which can be the 'base' of the-runaway-horse that I suggest you either find a local Coach or buy one of my training courses which include personal Coaching...we are running a special problem resolution lesson now, see number below. YOU DO NEED HELP before getting into an accident. If you can afford to buy a horse, surely you can afford to buy needed coaching...good luck! wfh
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by wfhone1 )
May 17, 2009 10:29 AM
WOW! You've bought a young high spirited horse for the 1st one. They can be EXTREMELY smooth and are VERY beautiful. I am not an expert in NO way on training horses. But, I understand what it is like to have a run away. We've bought several young spirited horses. I agree, you need to invest in some horsemanship riding and training techniques. There are lots of techniques and methods out there, so you'll probably want to do some research. Also, what may work for one horse or one horse / rider combo, may not work for another. Horses all have their own personality just like people. One thing you can work toward while your compiling your neverending horse library, is building trust and a relationship with your horse. The more the horse trusts you, the more you will be able to help him/her get through the fear of running. I have also had the nickname "tigger" before too. Because, I am a "high" energy person. Horses, are more a "body language" animal. So, if you are feeling excited about riding (not a bad energy) but have lots of exciting energy, some of this maybe be relayed to your horse. It's possible that he doesn't realize it's a "good" energy. Just the excitement. Just through riding, we have found that our daughter's Arab, doesn't do as well with a bit. She rides alot at home (not much time for trails lately) and sometimes may only have a few minutes. So, instead of not having enough time to ride at all, she'll hook her reins to the halter. We were amazed at the difference we found. He's much calmer and usually stops. NOT TO SAY THAT's what you need to do. But, we've started thinking that maybe in his unknown past, he might have had more training and/or riding with a hackamore or bosal style bridle or some of his experiences with a bit where not good. So, she's starting to work with him on learning about the "bit." Anyway, that's just a VERY small example of somethings that you might not even think about. Which is, what type of training and tack does your horse know. Also, I have learned that a simple natural horsemanship technique is to "kinda mimic" the calming a mother gives to the young baby horse. Gently rubbing the neck and withers can help calm a nervous excited horse. That is NOT the only answer but may help a little. YOU NEED TO BE AS SAFE AS YOU CAN. You obviously have a love for horses that should not be lost just because this is a young spirited horse. BEST WISHES!
by sallishorsetack )
May 19, 2009 6:50 AM
Oh, Lordy, have mercy!! Please DO NOT RIDE THIS RUNAWAY HORSE WITHOUT A BIT! Please get you some PROFESSIONAL help! All this current jargon about the "natural" horsemanship 'methods' are NOT classically founded METHODS for riding...horses in their 'natural' conditions do not carry people. Think on that truth. Seek help from someone who has a strongly built foundation in training horses and riders...if not my courses...someone who can teach you and your horse SAFE METHODS one-step-at-a-time and can help you correct upcoming problems!! Please avoid trying to perform magic--training horses is work and CANNOT be accomplished with unskilled 'whispers' !! HeritageHorses Internet
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by wfhone1 )
May 19, 2009 7:53 AM
Hi there, Yeah, sounds like it would be a good idea for you to take lessons at a lesson barn, in an arena, on a good old dead broke horse. Strengthen your riding ability from there. You want your riding time to be enjoyable not a time of panic and frustration. You don't want to get hurt. One of my trainers told me "green on green makes black and blue".There is so much to learn about riding itself as well as horse sense and how they think. I have seen a lot of new/green riders get gun ho and get a horse that isn't best suited for them and their riding ability. They wind up getting scared and or hurt therefore giving up on their love and passion for these awesome animals. A young horse is hardly ever a good idea for a new rider. If you can't take lessons, I would seriously recommend a much older more expericed, calm horse.
by kdzig )
May 31, 2009 7:33 PM
Hi! I just read about the trouble you were having back in May. I was just wondering how things have been going since then? Have you solved your problem or still having trouble? I've spent my life ,since I was 10,working with & "breaking" horses. I've learned it takes ALOT of patients & groundwork to get to know the horse. #1 Rule: The horse Must never leave the pen until they know to STOP! They must stop when you want! Work on a longeline first, when you say whoa they should listen,just keep up the training til they do.Then ride in the pen til you are positive they'll stop, immediatly,every time.You will both enjoy the ride outside the pen then.Not everyone can afford to pay for help,just be very careful & respect your horse!
by tata785 )
Jul 15, 2009 2:36 PM
thanks to all who responded, i have invested in some training vidios and such, my young spitfire of a horse, is realy starting to respond very well. it just takes time and patience, and confidence, not only in him, but also in myself........ thanks for all the well wishes and may all your rides be wonderful aand long...........
by tiiggeerr007 )
Jul 15, 2009 6:30 PM
I'm so glad things are working well for the two of you! By now you have learned alot about your horse,bet you can read him by the way he holds his ears or the movement of his tail!! I've trained alot of horses and I never quit learning! I still buy training videos,sometimes I come across a horse that's more stubborn than me! I have a 13 yr old mare I got as a baby, she hates me for no reason,she tries to bite me or kick me any time I need to catch her.I've tried everything,nothing works,she's been this way since she was 6mths old! I keep her because she has awesome babies! I'm happy all is well with you!
by tata785 )
Jul 15, 2009 9:05 PM
i have tried clinton anderson vidios, and they are realy working with him, thanks for al your concern, i love being a horse owner and trully enjoy the time that i spend with my rebal.
by tiiggeerr007 )
Jul 16, 2009 12:29 PM
I'm so glad to see more info & some responses that things are going well. It sounds like you are going to have a long & wonderful relationship with your horse. Your confidence will build as you "grow" with your horse and increase your knowledge & riding abilities. I TOTALLY agree with tata785 that you never stop learning. Keep up the good work!!
by sallishorsetack )
Jul 18, 2009 5:02 AM
hi Tiiggeerr,

When a horse is running away it helps to grab one rein and make him go in a circle.....he will slow down fast! Also it helps to pull the reins back one at a time instead of both together which sometimes makes him grab the bit in his mouth. By pulling the reins like a see-saw helps to prevent him from grabbing the bit and running away.
by katvondu )
Oct 14, 2009 7:18 PM
I have seen alot of responses to your posts and hopefully all of the advise has been helpful. I have a suggestion that may be helpful: Try working some one rein stops. You can start in an arena, at a walk, on a pattern and while keeping a forward progression, slide your hand down the rein that is toward the inside of the arena and tip the nose toward your knee until you get a stop and release. There are some teachers that may have some videos to show you...try www.willingpartners.com or look up Larry Trocha.
by sonjasederquist )
Oct 23, 2009 8:18 AM
Hello. I just thought I would comment to tiiggeerr007 even though she has gotten some good advice. I am a horse trainer and I have worked with many gaited horses as well as youngsters. Some Tennessee Walking Horses while beautiful and smooth are still a hotter breed especially the colder the weather gets. I have found that three things have helped me the most in training them. 1) Regular turnout in a large space 2)Lunge your horse or work them in the round pen faithfully before every ride( Don't increase the amount of time every time or your end of with a more fit horse.) 3) Try to determine the cause of him running away. I know that sounds obvious but it really can be caused by a whole bunch of reasons. How much training did he have when you bought him? Was he broke to ride? How much bitting work has he had done by a trainer. Three main causes of runaways are 1) Too much energy from a untrained green horse 2) Horse is afraid and has not accepted a rider or the bit. 3)Rider Error
I wish you all the best of luck with him. I love Clinton Anderson also.
by darianne123 )
Oct 29, 2009 10:45 AM
Hello. I bought a TWH a few years ago with the same problem. I see this is an old post--from May '09. I hope you are safe and sound as well as your horse! The problem (I learned) with TWH"s is that a lot of them are show trained--usually from the start. What "we" perceive as running away is really them "taking off." The tighter you hold the reins on your TW horse--the FASTER he will go! It's like shifting gears on a car--oddly enough and I know of no other way to describe it. I had to completely retrain my TWH to stand quietly while I mounted and to stand still until I told him to move. How did I do this? I got a fanny pack type of bag and filled it with sweet feed. I would lift my leg like I was getting ready to put it in the stirrup. If he didn't move--he got a bite. If he moved--he did not. Didn't take him 5 minutes to figure it out! We moved on from there--"Look around right" means to turn your head to the right and look at my right foot for example...when he did...he got a bite of feed. My TWH is voice trained--meaning he works off of what I say as well as what I do. I don't have to use the feed with him anymore. Just petting him works now. He is now like a big old puppy dog...who listens to me. TWH's rank in the top 3 of the smartest horses in the world from what I've been told. They are extremely intelligent. My TWH has proven that to be true. Hope to hear from you and hope what I've said here helps you or anyone else. I've ridden/trained all of my life. I'm no expert--not by a long-shot...but I'm no dummy either! ;-)) Thank you for listening!
by tmortonms60 )
Nov 6, 2009 12:12 AM
p.s...I know a lot of people have great results riding a horse without a bit aka a hackamore. When I was 17, I was riding an appaloosa with a hackamore down the side of a two lane country road. Everything was as smooth as can be and out of the blue--the horse took off running. I don't know if it was spooked or ready to head to the barn. I pulled sideways--back--you name it---with everything I had in me to try to get this horse to stop. With a hackamore or halter, they have the advantage because they set their head and we're screwed! Well, I certainly was. With lightning speed, the horse decided to shoot left--across this two lane, cement road. The horse had shoes on all four feet. When those metal shoes hit the pavement, it was as if he had ran onto ice. Zip! All four feet out from under him all at once. I went flying. The fall cracked or broke both of my elbows and both of my kneecaps. I was afraid of the horse running on me--so I jumped up and rolled into the ditch. The horse--sure enough--ran exactly over where I had fallen and kept running behind some houses. Within 1 minute--no more--an 18 wheeler carrying a load of logs--came barreling down that road. It is only by the grace of God alone---that I am here today. I will always be---and have been since then--a loud voice against riding with a hackamore or bridal--especially by children. I don't care how good ANY of our pets are--we don't know what they are thinking and what will set them off. My own children have ridden their old, gentle horses in our pasture ONLY--with the halters and lead ropes on the horse--and no other place. The funny thing? They've only done it roughly once or twice. The uncertainty or "lack of control" is so scary to them--they don't do it anymore. Both of my kids have said that it's like driving a car with no steering wheel and that's not something they are stupid enough to do. Thought I would share this. Thanks for listening. Oh...I still carry the scars on both elbows and both knees from that day. It literally took the hide off of me. I'll be 49 this month and those scars haven't faded very much at all--both physically and emotionally. I now believe in the old saying..."Live to ride another day." Be safe.
by tmortonms60 )
Nov 6, 2009 12:24 AM